weirdelf
weirdelf
Apr 11, 2014

To share and impart

The best teachers are those that show you where to look
but don't tell you what to see.
The best students are those who don't look at your finger
when you point at the moon.

What kind of teacher I would be
would not show the moon too soon
and not allow my finger to linger
or clench into a fist of despair
to swing futilely at empty air
where I think your head should be
it having already outpaced me,
so now we are both free.

About This Poem

Review Request Intensity: I want the raw truth, feel free to knock me on my back

Editing Stage: Editing - rough draft

About the Author

Region, Country: Sydney, Australia, AUS

Favorite Poets: The Romantics

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Comments

Esker

its like fencing poem...
like magic....more effort and you learn more
by the challenge of figuring out the
trick of things...

and i like the use of moon
and pointing at it..
native lore one was not supposed to point
at the moon..

but i like how you describe those who look
not at the finger but at the destiny of it...

R

raj

11 years ago

This poem is superb. Esker has already commented on this one and I support what he has said.

Regards,

weirdelf

I have been considering my role as a mentor on this site, and how much I learn from those i
mentor

swamp-witch

I think this is great. I'm currently enrolled in class called "Ways of Teaching Literature" and I think my classmates would really appreciate this poem.

Even though I have a lot of suggestions for the second stanza, I do think the second stanza is much stronger than the first. I see the first stanza as setting the stage the for the second, so it makes sense that it's on a different level than the second stanza. Also, Is the first stanza supposed to be reminiscent of old adages?

Here are a few thoughts I had on my second read:

  • Maybe transpose "The best students are those who when you point at the moon/ don't look at your finger." so that it reads "... those who don't look at your finger when you point..."
  • There is some kind of rhyme throughout the entire second stanza, except for line one. Maybe making this more consistent would improve the pace of the poem
  • The tense of the second stanza seems to detract from the meaning. It seems too indirect. What do you think of these changes?

The kind of teacher I want to be
does on not show the moon too soon
and does not allow my finger to linger
or clench into a fist of despair
that swings at empty air
where I think your head should be
you have doubtless outpaced me.

weirdelf

Yes, the difference between the two stanzas is a deliberate switch from old adages to a more personal view. If the disparity is too great, well, I kinda like it.

Love the suggestions, tried some variations of them. Didn't manage to lose the repeated 'be' rhyme.

A new, I think improved, ending.

Ian.T

On the pointing finger,
I shall not linger
Or the pointing at the moon
The teacher or preacher
Here doesn't figure
Maybe I speak too bloody soon
Oh F--- I did duck
The fist flew over my head
To teach on reflection
Without an inflection
Is for someone else instead..
I shall retreat to my cave
Just pop in I have saved
A cup of tea for you
I shall put some sugar in.
A stirring I have been.
In words away I flew.
Now can't end this verse
Put money in my purse
I shall leave it for you to do.

Good philosophy there young dreamer, great to read some of your Wisdom again, Yours Sparrow.
PS:- Having problems with rhymes and things

Breakinglogic

I painted a picture once and asked my friend to look at it. He asked "what is it?" to which I replied, "what do you see?"
The fool, as if he hadn't any eyes, claimed he didn't know! I also thought to slap the back of his head. (In his defense, I'm no Dali)

It seems sometimes that we are taught to know instead of to learn.
Enjoyed this little lesson!

logic

Eduardo Cruz

If in ten, one sees the moon then you are a good teacher, if two or more see it then you are a great teacher. if all ten see the moon then there all more than likely on drugs.
I love the old Bruce Lee"s words "if you look at the finger you will miss all the heavenly glory"
"The best students are those who when you point at the moon
don't look at your finger."
You are a great teacher, in a mad crazy way, but that is just who you are and it is what makes me receptive to you.

Eddie C.

IRiz

I am happy to know you like it.
The neopoet account was not active for awhile. It will take time to gain attention.
My FB started to pick up yersterday I have added 300 people requests. Today I have 900 requests. Haha. But the max is only 5k on Facebook.

S

he who would learn first teach".......wish I'd said that

R

raj

6 years 5 months ago

I read this on the proposed poems for Instargram folder created by IRiz...this is so very meaningful and true...
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